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@Pedro147
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It looks like Apple Silicon does not have that screen you are showing which is weird…but MDM can set that feature after all it seems.   All is in the link ….

sorry, what link are you referring to please?

@joshworksit
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joshworksit commented Aug 12, 2023 via email

@Pedro147
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You lost me I asked about a link, but thanks for your thoughts anyway

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Good lord if I had known my email replies were posting like that…garrrrr….

@Pedro147
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Thanks guys

@Ran-Xing
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Ran-Xing commented Aug 16, 2023

@Pedro147 May I ask which url you used to query this picture?

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@Ran-Xing
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@Pedro147 I'm talking about the content of this picture

MDM_LOCAL: on

@Pedro147
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You mean to query the info in the picture, so https://sickw.com/?page=services&service=11

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Ran-Xing commented Aug 16, 2023 via email

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general question on stopping DEP reminders in macOS Ventura
Hello, I have found this thread helpful in stopping DEP reminders in Monterey, and just received a Mac Studio (still in the box) from Apple and was hoping that you could recommend preventing DEP reminders. My institution puts a lot of rather invasive software on Macs including blocking naming of the computer and blocking the root user. Thanks!

@RickyGoodlett
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I did not quite understand. Why is this necessary? Explain someone briefly

@wangyv6
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wangyv6 commented Aug 20, 2023

pretty cool, how can i make sure the mdm enrollment prompt is fully closed ? need some time to confirm ?

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wangyv6 commented Aug 20, 2023

👍😍😍

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hdsheena commented Aug 24, 2023

@sonomadep looks like those files don't exist actually..

Mine were located in /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD\ -\ Data/private/var.. in case it helps anyone else

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grzesiolpl commented Aug 26, 2023

@sonomadep looks like those files don't exist actually..

Mine were located in /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD\ -\ Data/private/var.. in case it helps anyone else

Hmm… My MCP i5 lets me install Catalina, but anything higher shows greyish SSD and info "This disk is locked". Root user is working normally, but the disk has some way of security in higher versions of macOS.

edit: I will check if I have proper Secure Boot options enabled and let u know if that solved the problem.

@opsquid
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opsquid commented Aug 27, 2023

Awesome! It work for me, now the nagging DEP popup won't show anymore. Thank you.

@Solmonz
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Solmonz commented Aug 28, 2023

May I ask how to bypass MDM and update the system normally on the new version of macOS 14 (Sonoma)?

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May I ask how to bypass MDM and update the system normally on the new version of macOS 14 (Sonoma)?

Disable annoying Remote Management Pop-Up after upgrading to macOS Sonoma (14)
Apple further added a new gate preventing people from using their DEP-enabled Macs without installing the profiles in macOS Sonoma. After upgrading from a fully-working Ventura copy (with MDM servers blocked in hosts) to macOS Sonoma DP 1, your Mac will want to give you a pop-up window every 10 mins reminding you to install a DEP profile. Did some experiments and I think Apple is secretly pinging their MDM servers no matter you have an active profile associated w/ SN or not. As long as the servers are not reachable they will annoy you with their new pop-up system.

The Workaround

(1) Disable SIP in 1 True Recovery

(2)
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord

sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound

sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled

sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound

(3) you're all set. enjoy this boring upgrade

@Solmonz
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Solmonz commented Aug 28, 2023

May I ask how to bypass MDM and update the system normally on the new version of macOS 14 (Sonoma)?

Disable annoying Remote Management Pop-Up after upgrading to macOS Sonoma (14) Apple further added a new gate preventing people from using their DEP-enabled Macs without installing the profiles in macOS Sonoma. After upgrading from a fully-working Ventura copy (with MDM servers blocked in hosts) to macOS Sonoma DP 1, your Mac will want to give you a pop-up window every 10 mins reminding you to install a DEP profile. Did some experiments and I think Apple is secretly pinging their MDM servers no matter you have an active profile associated w/ SN or not. As long as the servers are not reachable they will annoy you with their new pop-up system.

The Workaround

(1) Disable SIP in 1 True Recovery

(2) sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord

sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound

sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled

sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound

(3) you're all set. enjoy this boring upgrade
I am currently on macOS 12, and I want to reinstall, disable MDM, and then upgrade to the newer version. How should I proceed? I've been trying to figure this out for a while
How to disable SIP

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ehsan58 commented Aug 29, 2023

May I ask how to bypass MDM and update the system normally on the new version of macOS 14 (Sonoma)?

Disable annoying Remote Management Pop-Up after upgrading to macOS Sonoma (14) Apple further added a new gate preventing people from using their DEP-enabled Macs without installing the profiles in macOS Sonoma. After upgrading from a fully-working Ventura copy (with MDM servers blocked in hosts) to macOS Sonoma DP 1, your Mac will want to give you a pop-up window every 10 mins reminding you to install a DEP profile. Did some experiments and I think Apple is secretly pinging their MDM servers no matter you have an active profile associated w/ SN or not. As long as the servers are not reachable they will annoy you with their new pop-up system.
The Workaround
(1) Disable SIP in 1 True Recovery
(2) sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound
(3) you're all set. enjoy this boring upgrade
I am currently on macOS 12, and I want to reinstall, disable MDM, and then upgrade to the newer version. How should I proceed? I've been trying to figure this out for a while
How to disable SIP

Disable System Integrity Protection Temporarily

To disable SIP, do the following:

Restart your computer in [Recovery mode] (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201314).

Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.

Run the command csrutil disable.

Restart your computer.

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N4ssim commented Aug 29, 2023

Hello, is it a good choice to buy a MacBook MDM for the next two years?

What should I check when buying a MacBook MDM?

I've already had a MacBook pro 2020 M1 MDM, but now I'm hesitating between a MacBook Pro 2021 M1 Pro 16/512 No MDM and a MacBook Pro 2021 M1 Pro 32/1T MDM for same price.

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iclumsy commented Aug 31, 2023

Where can I buy a MDM macbook for a good price?

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Gorus23 commented Aug 31, 2023

I am selling macbook pro 2021 m1 chip, 16 gb ram. It has only 3 battery cycles. I'm from Serbia and can send it to you. If you are interested, send me a message.

@MikeParder
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thanks @gwshaw for the edits!

Here is how you can bypass MDM completely ...

Boot to Recovery

Open Terminal and enable the root user and give it a password:

Enter the command below and press Enter

dscl -f /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD\ -\ Data/private/var/db/dslocal/nodes/Default localhost -passwd /Local/Default/Users/root

There might be a slight directory difference between Intel/Silicon. If the command above does not work try using one of these variations:

/Volumes/Macintosh\ HD\ -\ Data/ or /Volumes/Data/

Enter a new password for root user. Note * If you choose a simple password be aware that the root user will be available as a user that can log into macOS which could present a risk to the security of the device.

Once complete click the Apple logo -> Reboot or in Terminal type Reboot then press Enter and let macOS start-up.

Show the hidden menubar and go to System Settings when the Setup Assistant begins by pressing Command + Option + Control + T together.

Click the Apple logo > System Settings -> Users & Groups

Create an admin user with your username and password then click Add Account. The authentication window will appear and autofill the username as user "System Setup". Change this to "root" and use the password you created earlier in Terminal.

Use the Apple menu and select Reboot and if this does not work, force off your Mac by holding the power button down at least 10 seconds.

Boot to Recovery again.

Open Terminal and enter the command below and press Enter.

touch /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD\ -\ Data/private/var/db/.AppleSetupDone

Then type Reboot and press Enter or force off your Mac again using the steps above.

If you found this helpful please donate! https://pay.siliconbypass.com

Thank you so much, this is what i used and it worked perfectly. With that said, i am still getting the popups every few hours or so reminding me to install the MDM. How do i get rid of that? The instructions above are not helping. Thanks!

@MikeParder
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**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air
Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.
On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.
Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk
You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.
Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.
Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.
Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.
Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.
I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.
You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.
Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Many thanks @maclover696 for your method... Could you please share the output when you do the below command in Terminal (to verify the DEP status) using your method in M2? Thanks
$ profiles status -type enrollment

here you go

Enrolled via DEP: No MDM enrollment: No

The screens for MDM enrollment never showed up because I completely bypassed it thru the first computer. Yes, it does require another M1 computer that' Non-DEP but that process is just once to build the External SSD OS once.

I did find some videos about disabling wifi, login, enable wifi, download some software (is that sofware safe? Something about Checkm8) but I don't want to install software - I'm sure it's fine since people are using it but I don't want to run csrutil either, terminal etc.

Anyway, I felt it was too much babysitting the process so I rather just instal lit twice with my method cuz I can just go to sleep after part 1 started and just do part 2 and set it and forget it.

Much easier and requires no real attention to watch it install.

And the benefit of my method is that my external SSD can be updated with latest software so any new Macs I install would have all of the software I normally want on it. Visual Studio code, nodejs, docker etc. It's an "golden image" for my own base build!

Glad I was able to contribute to this new method! I've been using the csrutil editing hosts tricks for many years. Frustrated a long time that I cannot do the same on M1 and Carbon Copy and SuperDuper are all failing also. My method can also help you dupe an working mac completely if you ever say upgrade to a new computer and co not want to reset- everything from scratch. I don't think Migration Assistant will migrate stuff I installed manually via GIT etc in various directories so I rather just copy it all as is in the future.

Thank you for posting this. I havent tried this method yet, I did the other one on here and it works but my device is stil getting popups and Its still showing MDM in terminal. Is there anyway you can get with me one on one, on telegram or something, to walk me through this? I can pay you for your troubles. Thanks!

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Last question of the night! Promise! After doing this command:
(sudo profiles show -type enrollment), it shows the company info its enrolled to. I also get the popup in the corner reminding me. Even though i bypassed MDM, is there any way this company can still track the machine? or even worse, see into my icloud account? I am logged in with my apple ID and connected to my home wifi.

@Sergiu-Cocieru
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**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air

Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.

On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.

Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk

You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.

Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.

Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.

Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.

Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.

I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.

You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.

Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Does anyone know if I've used this method to enroll in MDM? Can I update without issues to macOS Sonoma?

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joshworksit commented Sep 5, 2023 via email

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Salil999 commented Sep 9, 2023

Not sure if it helps but I found this website which might do it for you: https://skipmdm.com

You can verify the contents with curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com/main/Autobypass-mdm.sh | cat

@mikevic18
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mikevic18 commented Sep 11, 2023

To save everyone time, the script provided on skipmdm is just what was discussed here previously put together in a nice script.
The current version linked is safe, but as it goes always check before you run something you got off the internet as the script can always be changed.
For anyone curious, here is the direct link to the script:
AutoBypass-mdm.sh

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Ran-Xing commented Sep 12, 2023

I need an agent to help me sell my bypass service, use my technology or we can study new technologies together. At present, my research result is that I can bypass the MDM without didn't disabling SIP. The command line I need to use is only 20 characters, which contains multiple options, such as cleaning up WiFi information, waking up MDM, bypassing MDM, cleaning up MDM agent, creating users,and more。My authorization method is to bind the serial number, and a machine can be used for life. The price is $14. Friends in need can ask friends in China to pay me. My personal homepage has my email address.

@Ran-Xing
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I have been writing this program for a year. At first it was a script, but someone stole my script to make money, and later it was changed to an encrypted program. At the beginning, I collected MDM Agent information and deleted plist file and agent App together.Later, this situation was less, so we just need to bypass and disable MDM.

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Ran-Xing commented Sep 12, 2023

At first, I used some simple command lines to bypass the MDM,But some people can't access google and github, so I provide $1 technical service.(Video guidance)

What I do is not simple copying and pasting, because ordinary users can't use the command line, and it's easy to input case errors and even spaces. I don't have this much energy.I arranged all the necessary steps into options for users to choose, and even provided videos, notes and communication groups.

Later, I found all kinds of MDM-Agent, I knew that I needed to constantly optimize them, so the price rose to $7.

Later, some seniors criticized me and my peers slandered me. I once thought about giving up.But I still have dozens of customers, and I can't leave them alone, and these users pay enough money for me to buy some fruit. Even without me, there will be another one. The main reason why I spend so much time studying is that these are too expensive. (check8 or other)

My main client is from China, so most of the documents are in Chinese. Please forgive me, you can use Google Translation.

** I'm here now because I think the brother above has the same experience as me, and I'm afraid he will replace me. @skipmdm-phoenixbot. His growth may pose an indirect threat to me **

  • I am also a MDM Mac user.
  • I update faster than other organizations.
  • I will communicate with my clients.

video: https://b23.tv/shTJigT
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@Elec-trick
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Is there anyone who has tried installing MacOS Sonoma on bypassed MB M1?

@ehsan58
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ehsan58 commented Sep 24, 2023

Since only 2 days are left for Sonama's final release. This is my question, will we have any problems after upgrading to Sonoma? I now work easily on ventura without bypass. Will I have the same experience with the upgrade? Or it is an issue that should be considered
Thank you all

@mikevic18
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I am running Sonoma, just upgrade manually and make sure to have blocked in the hosts file and in the router's settings the domains listed in this thread. After upgrading, check your hosts file and make sure that the services are still disabled. Additionally, you could block access to the internet of the services using a firewall like Little Snitch to make sure that even if Apple has added an additional domain or whatever type of check, all the traffic to and from the services is blocked.

@klnvsky
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klnvsky commented Sep 26, 2023

Has anyone used the site skipmdm.com? it helps to bypass the blocking and everything works well, but are there any risks associated with this?

@lynndixon
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Has anyone used the site skipmdm.com? it helps to bypass the blocking and everything works well, but are there any risks associated with this?

You can always see exactly what their script is doing here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com/main/Autobypass-mdm.sh

Not to mention their script is housed here: https://github.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com

See for yourself....

@klnvsky
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klnvsky commented Sep 26, 2023

Has anyone used the site skipmdm.com? it helps to bypass the blocking and everything works well, but are there any risks associated with this?

You can always see exactly what their script is doing here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com/main/Autobypass-mdm.sh

Not to mention their script is housed here: https://github.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com

See for yourself....

I’m not the programmer to be honest. And I don’t understand what does it mean :( I just want to use my MacBook and not to lose my files and data…
If you can explain - I would be very grateful!

@lynndixon
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Has anyone used the site skipmdm.com? it helps to bypass the blocking and everything works well, but are there any risks associated with this?

You can always see exactly what their script is doing here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com/main/Autobypass-mdm.sh
Not to mention their script is housed here: https://github.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com
See for yourself....

I’m not the programmer to be honest. And I don’t understand what does it mean :( I just want to use my MacBook and not to lose my files and data… If you can explain - I would be very grateful!

this script essentially runs all the command that have been recommended in this long thread. It appears that it would work. I would do this on a clean reinstall. Following their instructions should result in success, and nothing nefarious being installed or done to your machine.

@klnvsky
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klnvsky commented Sep 26, 2023

Has anyone used the site skipmdm.com? it helps to bypass the blocking and everything works well, but are there any risks associated with this?

You can always see exactly what their script is doing here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com/main/Autobypass-mdm.sh
Not to mention their script is housed here: https://github.com/skipmdm-phoenixbot/skipmdm.com
See for yourself....

I’m not the programmer to be honest. And I don’t understand what does it mean :( I just want to use my MacBook and not to lose my files and data… If you can explain - I would be very grateful!

this script essentially runs all the command that have been recommended in this long thread. It appears that it would work. I would do this on a clean reinstall. Following their instructions should result in success, and nothing nefarious being installed or done to your machine.

Thank you so much, hope all will be great! Have a nice day :)

@JediRhymeTrix
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Sonoma is here. Let's keep experiences/observations coming.

@Sergiu-Cocieru
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**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air
Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.
On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.
Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk
You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.
Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.
Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.
Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.
Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.
I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.
You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.
Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Does anyone know if I've used this method to enroll in MDM? Can I update without issues to macOS Sonoma?

Unfortunately, no. After the update, a fullscreen Device Enrollment popup started appearing. Does anyone know of a solution?

@haohanw
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haohanw commented Sep 27, 2023

**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air
Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.
On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.
Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk
You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.
Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.
Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.
Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.
Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.
I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.
You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.
Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Does anyone know if I've used this method to enroll in MDM? Can I update without issues to macOS Sonoma?

Unfortunately, no. After the update, a fullscreen Device Enrollment popup started appearing. Does anyone know of a solution?

Someone mentioned that after downloading the update and reboot, you should unplug the router to disconnect from the network .During the restart after the installed, your mac may communicate with the MDM server. Considering that your SN exists on the MDM server, if there is successful communication, a pop-up might appear.

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Uanqaoh commented Sep 27, 2023

is there any other way to run "sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound sudo touch " without closing SIP? every time I turn on sip, these two files will reappear again.

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haohanw commented Sep 27, 2023

Try this in Recovery
rm -rf /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord
rm -rf /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound
touch /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
touch /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound

Not sure if these can be used with SIP enabled

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Uanqaoh commented Sep 27, 2023

Try this in Recovery rm -rf /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord rm -rf /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound touch /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled touch /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound

Not sure if these can be used with SIP enabled

It doesn't work, at first I tried to use these scripts in recovery but I couldn't do it. The code has to be in a terminal on macos to work

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Uanqaoh commented Sep 27, 2023

successful upgrade to Sonoma, here are some experiences that I learn from these process. I hope it was helpful.

There are two main steps to do.

step 1: shield the host

1.open terminal and enable the root user and give it password.

2.enter the command below and press enter
"
sudo -i
echo "0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts
echo "0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts
echo "0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts
echo "0.0.0.0 gdmf.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts
echo "0.0.0.0 acmdm.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts
echo "0.0.0.0 albert.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts
"
3.now you have successfully shield the host. if you do not wan to upgrade to Sonoma, then enjoy your macOS without annoying notifications. and if you want Sonoma, please follow the second step.

step 2: delete two files and built two files

1.shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.

2.in terminal on Recovery, enter "csrutil disable" to disable SIP.

3.reboot your Mac. in terminal on macOS.enter the command below and press enter.
"
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll
"

finish! now you can enjoy the boring Sonoma.

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Chehow commented Sep 27, 2023

successful upgrade to Sonoma, here are some experiences that I learn from these process. I hope it was helpful.

There are two main steps to do.

step 1: shield the host

1.open terminal and enable the root user and give it password.

2.enter the command below and press enter " sudo -i echo "0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 gdmf.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 acmdm.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 albert.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts " 3.now you have successfully shield the host. if you do not wan to upgrade to Sonoma, then enjoy your macOS without annoying notifications. and if you want Sonoma, please follow the second step.

step 2: delete two files and built two files

1.shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.

2.in terminal on Recovery, enter "csrutil disable" to disable SIP.

3.reboot your Mac. in terminal on macOS.enter the command below and press enter. " sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll "

finish! now you can enjoy the boring Sonoma.

Should the step 2 be done before update to Sanoma or after? Thanks.

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Uanqaoh commented Sep 27, 2023

successful upgrade to Sonoma, here are some experiences that I learn from these process. I hope it was helpful.
There are two main steps to do.
step 1: shield the host
1.open terminal and enable the root user and give it password.
2.enter the command below and press enter " sudo -i echo "0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 gdmf.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 acmdm.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 albert.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts " 3.now you have successfully shield the host. if you do not wan to upgrade to Sonoma, then enjoy your macOS without annoying notifications. and if you want Sonoma, please follow the second step.
step 2: delete two files and built two files
1.shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.
2.in terminal on Recovery, enter "csrutil disable" to disable SIP.
3.reboot your Mac. in terminal on macOS.enter the command below and press enter. " sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll "
finish! now you can enjoy the boring Sonoma.

Should the step 2 be done before update to Sanoma or after? Thanks.

all of these two steps should be done if you want Sonoma

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successful upgrade to Sonoma, here are some experiences that I learn from these process. I hope it was helpful.

There are two main steps to do.

step 1: shield the host

1.open terminal and enable the root user and give it password.

2.enter the command below and press enter " sudo -i echo "0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 gdmf.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 acmdm.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts echo "0.0.0.0 albert.apple.com" >> /etc/hosts " 3.now you have successfully shield the host. if you do not wan to upgrade to Sonoma, then enjoy your macOS without annoying notifications. and if you want Sonoma, please follow the second step.

step 2: delete two files and built two files

1.shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.

2.in terminal on Recovery, enter "csrutil disable" to disable SIP.

3.reboot your Mac. in terminal on macOS.enter the command below and press enter. " sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll "

finish! now you can enjoy the boring Sonoma.

I did the above steps on a previously MDM bypassed working Ventura then updated to Sonoma and it worked.

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On another machine I did a clean install of Ventura then blocked/patched/bypassed MDM. Then updated it to Sonoma.

I want to run migration assistant on a Time Machine backup to restore files and apps. If I only migrate over apps and files and no network settings will the bypass stick?

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What's up! What do I do if I have already updated to Sonoma and the notification appears? I did the steps mentioned but since it was already updated I guess that's why it doesn't work. I didn't realize it and it was updated...

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I've been on Sonoma since beta 1, however I have had to manually install each update and now 14.1 isn't appearing. Anyone else have this issue too in software update?

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What's up! What do I do if I have already updated to Sonoma and the notification appears? I did the steps mentioned but since it was already updated I guess that's why it doesn't work. I didn't realize it and it was updated...

You could boot to recovery and try the bypass site listed in the video. I have another machine in the same state as yours and I’m going to try it when I get home.

https://gist.github.com/sghiassy/a3927405cf4ffe81242f4ecb01c382ac?permalink_comment_id=4690041#gistcomment-4690041

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¡Qué pasa! ¿Qué hago si ya actualicé a Sonoma y aparece la notificación? Hice los pasos mencionados pero como ya estaba actualizado supongo que por eso no funciona. No me di cuenta y se actualizó...

Puede iniciar la recuperación y probar el sitio de derivación que aparece en el video. Tengo otra máquina en el mismo estado que la tuya y la voy a probar cuando llegue a casa.

https://gist.github.com/sghiassy/a3927405cf4ffe81242f4ecb01c382ac?permalink_comment_id=4690041#gistcomment-4690041

Ok I'll do it right now, I'll comment on the result...

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Well, the video didn't work for me, I also did the other videos that are practically the same but nothing works, I still get the notification in system settings. From what I have read, the only way to solve it is to reinstall the system and do a clean bypass. I hope someone with great knowledge of it can help. Thank you.

¡Qué pasa! ¿Qué hago si ya actualicé a Sonoma y aparece la notificación? Hice los pasos mencionados pero como ya estaba actualizado supongo que por eso no funciona. No me di cuenta y se actualizó...

Puede iniciar la recuperación y probar el sitio de derivación que aparece en el vídeo. Tengo otra máquina en el mismo estado que la tuya y la voy a probar cuando llegue a casa.
https://gist.github.com/sghiassy/a3927405cf4ffe81242f4ecb01c382ac?permalink_comment_id=4690041#gistcomment-4690041

Ok lo haré ahora mismo, comentaré el resultado...

Well, the video didn't work for me, I also did the other videos that are practically the same but nothing works, I still get the notification in system settings. From what I have read, the only way to solve it is to reinstall the system and do a clean bypass. I hope someone with great knowledge of it can help. Thank you.

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Well, the video didn't work for me, I also did the other videos that are practically the same but nothing works, I still get the notification in system settings. From what I have read, the only way to solve it is to reinstall the system and do a clean bypass. I hope someone with great knowledge of it can help. Thank you.

¡Qué pasa! ¿Qué hago si ya actualicé a Sonoma y aparece la notificación? Hice los pasos mencionados pero como ya estaba actualizado supongo que por eso no funciona. No me di cuenta y se actualizó...

Puede iniciar la recuperación y probar el sitio de derivación que aparece en el vídeo. Tengo otra máquina en el mismo estado que la tuya y la voy a probar cuando llegue a casa.
https://gist.github.com/sghiassy/a3927405cf4ffe81242f4ecb01c382ac?permalink_comment_id=4690041#gistcomment-4690041

Ok lo haré ahora mismo, comentaré el resultado...

Well, the video didn't work for me, I also did the other videos that are practically the same but nothing works, I still get the notification in system settings. From what I have read, the only way to solve it is to reinstall the system and do a clean bypass. I hope someone with great knowledge of it can help. Thank you.

I have two machines in the same state. One, I did a clean install and bypass of Ventura. Then edited the host file to blocked device enrollment check in and the other steps in terminal. I was able to update Ventura to Sonoma without any enrollment messages.

My second machine I'm going to experiment now and see if I can get passed the window.

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Well, the video didn't work for me, I also did the other videos that are practically the same but nothing works, I still get the notification in system settings. From what I have read, the only way to solve it is to reinstall the system and do a clean bypass. I hope someone with great knowledge of it can help. Thank you.

¡Qué pasa! ¿Qué hago si ya actualicé a Sonoma y aparece la notificación? Hice los pasos mencionados pero como ya estaba actualizado supongo que por eso no funciona. No me di cuenta y se actualizó...

Puede iniciar la recuperación y probar el sitio de derivación que aparece en el vídeo. Tengo otra máquina en el mismo estado que la tuya y la voy a probar cuando llegue a casa.
https://gist.github.com/sghiassy/a3927405cf4ffe81242f4ecb01c382ac?permalink_comment_id=4690041#gistcomment-4690041

Ok lo haré ahora mismo, comentaré el resultado...

Well, the video didn't work for me, I also did the other videos that are practically the same but nothing works, I still get the notification in system settings. From what I have read, the only way to solve it is to reinstall the system and do a clean bypass. I hope someone with great knowledge of it can help. Thank you.

I have two machines in the same state. One, I did a clean install and bypass of Ventura. Then edited the host file to blocked device enrollment check in and the other steps in terminal. I was able to update Ventura to Sonoma without any enrollment messages.

My second machine I'm going to experiment now and see if I can get passed the window.

I booted to recovery and did skipmdm.com. It created a new user account Apple with password 1234 and ran the script. The appropriate ports are blocked and the message no longer appears. In preferences I tried deleting the Apple account and got a weird error. So I removed the account using Terminal.

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On another machine I did a clean install of Ventura then blocked/patched/bypassed MDM. Then updated it to Sonoma.

I want to run migration assistant on a Time Machine backup to restore files and apps. If I only migrate over apps and files and no network settings will the bypass stick?

On the machine where I did a clean install and bypass of Ventura then updated to Sonoma I was able to run migration assistant and migrate with all options from the Time Machine backup. It kept the edited hosts file and the message did not reappear after the migration.

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mikevic18 commented Sep 28, 2023

For anyone looking to update to macOS Sonoma, there are a couple of things to keep in mind:

  1. The recovery/activation that happens after the upgrade seems to not care about the hosts(I could be wrong but judging from the amount of people complaining about having MDM popups after upgrading seems it does seem to be the case).
    1.1 In order for this not to happen, you need to block the domains listed below in the router's settings (setup DMZ or whatever your router's equivalent is, look it up how to do it for your own router online)
    List of domains to block:
  • mdmenrollment.apple.com
  • iprofiles.apple.com
  • deviceenrollment.apple.com
  • gdmf.apple.com
  • acmdm.apple.com
  • albert.apple.com
  1. After upgrading, disable the following services:
    List of services to block/disable:
  • /usr/libexec/mdmclient
    • Disable service command: sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient
  • /usr/libexec/teslad
    • Disable service command: sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad

2.1. Before you unblock the domains from your router(e.g. to get updates for your iPhone) make sure to check your hosts file and add them back or if they are missing as previously mentioned in this thread.
3. (Optional) For even more peace of mind, you can just get Little Snitch or any other firewall and block any inbound and outbund connection to the previously listed services, so if the services become enabled for whatever reason after an update they won't be able to communicate with the MDM servers.

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@mikevic18 Your summary is great, but I think hosts only need to block these:

  1. iprofiles.apple.com
  2. mdmenrollment.apple.com
  3. deviceenrollment.apple.com
  4. (Website domain name that you don’t want to share)

You also missed some details

But fortunately, we can bypass the supervision!

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ehsan58 commented Oct 1, 2023

Thanks for the different solutions. What is the best solution to upgrade to Sonoma right now? I am on Ventura and I want to upgrade to Sonoma with the installer file I downloaded. can i do Or should I wait for a solution?

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@mikevic18 isn't it sufficient to turn the access point (router) off when the OS starts to reboot to complete the upgrade? That's what I did for Ventura and it worked fine. I'm talking about a straight upgrade without a clean install or restoring from backup.

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Ran-Xing commented Oct 1, 2023

:) macOS 14 beta

The latest version of macOS can no longer be bypassed normally, please do not update at will.

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mikevic18 commented Oct 1, 2023

@mikevic18 isn't it sufficient to turn the access point (router) off when the OS starts to reboot to complete the upgrade? That's what I did for Ventura and it worked fine. I'm talking about a straight upgrade without a clean install or restoring from backup.

Apple has the tendency to make Ethernet a requirement during any major update process, and they do this for many reasons, including legal ones. They seem to be more and more anal about their privacy policy, especially in Europe, where if you are logged in with an Apple Account it won't let you get to the home screen and complete the upgrade process unless you accept the changes in the privacy policy. To me, judging by how many people complained that they were greeted by an MDM notification or full lock screen after the upgrade which should have already a hosts file setup and the services disabled makes me think that this part where it calls home to check if you have accepted the policy changes amongst other things including any restrictions that this device might have like region ignoring the hosts file.

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I am on bypassed Ventura with no notification/popup. If I want to upgrade to Sonoma without doing a clean install or wiping anything, what exactly do I need to do?

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I am on bypassed Ventura with no notification/popup. If I want to upgrade to Sonoma without doing a clean install or wiping anything, what exactly do I need to do?

Run the script from skipmdm.com on your Ventura. It will create an account Apple during the script and block the appropriate sites so it can’t check for device enrollment. You can delete the account it created then update to Sonoma.

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Well, I don't get the alert, I just have that annoying notification. I still can't find how to delete it...

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mikevic18 commented Oct 2, 2023

Well, I don't get the alert, I just have that annoying notification. I still can't find how to delete it...​image

  1. Shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.
  2. Open up the terminal in Recovery and type to disable SIP:
  3. csrutil disable
  4. Reboot your Mac and open up a terminal after booting in macOS.
  5. Finally, to remove the annoying notification, enter the following:
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord 
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound 
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad

You can then either keep SIP off or turn it back on in recovery by typing csrutil enable in the recovery terminal

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mikevic18 commented Oct 2, 2023

I am on bypassed Ventura with no notification/popup. If I want to upgrade to Sonoma without doing a clean install or wiping anything, what exactly do I need to do?

Block access to the listed domains in your router and update manually normally (get the macOS Sonoma update from the app store and allow it to update normally), after that you can check the host files and disable the aforementioned services again.

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I think it's not allowed for Apple to change your hosts file, especially if you have some custom ones. Sounds illegal to me.

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mikevic18 commented Oct 2, 2023

I think it's not allowed for Apple to change your hosts file, especially if you have some custom ones. Sounds illegal to me.

Apple can not modify your hosts file, however when updating macos it can delete it and create a new blank one.
Apple can also bypass it at their will.
However, most of the time when they ignore it not necessarly because they intended to do so but because the daemon is not loaded yet as the upgrade process is not considered complete, and the boot is not complete until you click launch macOS
Why can they delete it?
Firstly, it is stored in a system path(/etc), not a user path(/usr). macOS can alter at will whatever is being stored in any system path, just like Windows and any other operating system or program within its working directory.
Secondly, as an example, hypothetically I am an Apple macOS Developer and I discovered a bug in the network manager and fix said bug. After fixing the bug I would either have the option to tell the OS that during the update it should delete the hosts file and create a new one in order to limit conflicts or problems that might arise from having the old file format, or it might actually be a software development protocol to mark for deletion related files to the service I have made major changes to.

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Well, I don't get the alert, I just have that annoying notification. I still can't find how to delete it...​image

  1. Shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.
  2. Open up the terminal in Recovery and type to disable SIP:
  3. csrutil disable
  4. Reboot your Mac and open up a terminal after booting in macOS.
  5. Finally, to remove the annoying notification, enter the following:
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord 
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound 
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad

You can then either keep SIP off or turn it back on in recovery by typing csrutil enable in the recovery terminal

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Thanks friend, it doesn't work for me, what other option do you think works...?

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Aooga776 commented Oct 2, 2023

I am on bypassed Ventura with no notification/popup. If I want to upgrade to Sonoma without doing a clean install or wiping anything, what exactly do I need to do?

This is what I'm looking for. Can someone do step by step in one post going from Ventura to Sonoma please?

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I am on bypassed Ventura with no notification/popup. If I want to upgrade to Sonoma without doing a clean install or wiping anything, what exactly do I need to do?

This is what I'm looking for. Can someone do step by step in one post going from Ventura to Sonoma please?

Did you get an answer? In the same boat and cant afford to made a mistake. Thanks.

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I am running Sonoma, just upgrade manually and make sure to have blocked in the hosts file and in the router's settings the domains listed in this thread. After upgrading, check your hosts file and make sure that the services are still disabled. Additionally, you could block access to the internet of the services using a firewall like Little Snitch to make sure that even if Apple has added an additional domain or whatever type of check, all the traffic to and from the services is blocked.

Can you possibly walk me through this??

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2pravin7 commented Oct 5, 2023

Well, I don't get the alert, I just have that annoying notification. I still can't find how to delete it...​image

  1. Shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.
  2. Open up the terminal in Recovery and type to disable SIP:
  3. csrutil disable
  4. Reboot your Mac and open up a terminal after booting in macOS.
  5. Finally, to remove the annoying notification, enter the following:
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord 
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound 
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad

You can then either keep SIP off or turn it back on in recovery by typing csrutil enable in the recovery terminal

Worked like a charm! Thanks for sharing this :)

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I am running Sonoma, just upgrade manually and make sure to have blocked in the hosts file and in the router's settings the domains listed in this thread. After upgrading, check your hosts file and make sure that the services are still disabled. Additionally, you could block access to the internet of the services using a firewall like Little Snitch to make sure that even if Apple has added an additional domain or whatever type of check, all the traffic to and from the services is blocked.

Can you possibly walk me through this??

I am on bypassed Ventura with no notification/popup. If I want to upgrade to Sonoma without doing a clean install or wiping anything, what exactly do I need to do?

This is what I'm looking for. Can someone do step by step in one post going from Ventura to Sonoma please?

Here's the link to my comment above(click on the link or just scroll until you see it) with step-by-step instructions.

Let me know if you need any help

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mikevic18 commented Oct 5, 2023

Well, I don't get the alert, I just have that annoying notification. I still can't find how to delete it...​image

  1. Shut down your Mac and enter Recovery.
  2. Open up the terminal in Recovery and type to disable SIP:
  3. csrutil disable
  4. Reboot your Mac and open up a terminal after booting in macOS.
  5. Finally, to remove the annoying notification, enter the following:
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord 
sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound 
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled
sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon 
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient
sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad

You can then either keep SIP off or turn it back on in recovery by typing csrutil enable in the recovery terminal

image

Thanks friend, it doesn't work for me, what other option do you think works...?

Did you add in the hosts file these domains?

  • mdmenrollment.apple.com
  • iprofiles.apple.com
  • deviceenrollment.apple.com
  • gdmf.apple.com
  • acmdm.apple.com

Also, did you restart after you ran the commands? If you didn't can you try to do that first and let me know
And just making sure did disable SIP in recovery before running the commands? If you did and you did restart too get little snitch or any other firewall and block internet access to the following services:
/usr/libexec/mdmclient
/usr/libexec/teslad

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So on both my wife's laptop (2019 13" MBP) and her iMac (2020 5K iMac) I went into the Host files and blocked it there. Once you get the computer up and running (off internet) or block in router. do this.

Open Terminal
sudo nano /etc/hosts
write in the following lines

0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com
0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com
0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com

save it and reboot

I went from Ventura to Sonoma on both NO problems at all. no popups and worked via OTA.
Just an FYI the gdmf.apple.com is the OTA updates installer. if you add that into the list, it will NOT pull updates via system preferences and you have to manually install the OS for every update its SUPEr annoying. So far any update has not overwritten these in the Hosts and it checks out that its not MDM any time.

you can check via these 2 commands
sudo profiles status -type enrollment
---this will tell you if it had DEP or MDM should say "NO" to both
sudo profiles show -type enrollment
--this will try to ping the servers for MDM enrollment, if you did it correctly you should get "Error fetching Device Enrollment config...blah blah" this is meaning that when it fetches 0.0.0.0 doesn't exist...obviously!

But anyway using this method I upgraded with NO problems at all! and did it OTA as well.

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So on both my wife's laptop (2019 13" MBP) and her iMac (2020 5K iMac) I went into the Host files and blocked it there. Once you get the computer up and running (off internet) or block in router. do this.

Open Terminal sudo nano /etc/hosts write in the following lines

0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com 0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com 0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com

save it and reboot

I went from Ventura to Sonoma on both NO problems at all. no popups and worked via OTA. Just an FYI the gdmf.apple.com is the OTA updates installer. if you add that into the list, it will NOT pull updates via system preferences and you have to manually install the OS for every update its SUPEr annoying. So far any update has not overwritten these in the Hosts and it checks out that its not MDM any time.

you can check via these 2 commands sudo profiles status -type enrollment ---this will tell you if it had DEP or MDM should say "NO" to both sudo profiles show -type enrollment --this will try to ping the servers for MDM enrollment, if you did it correctly you should get "Error fetching Device Enrollment config...blah blah" this is meaning that when it fetches 0.0.0.0 doesn't exist...obviously!

But anyway using this method I upgraded with NO problems at all! and did it OTA as well.

Can you elaborate for a simpleton like myself? How do you go into the host file and block there? And block what exactly? Also block what and where? Either way, my situation is that i am on Ventura on a bypassed MDM MacBook Pro 16" M2 Pro and i want to do a normal update to Sonoma and need assistance. Thank you.

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tecnicalapple commented Oct 6, 2023

How to remove the MDM notification on ventura and be able to update to any version without having to redo the process. With this method, Sonoma does not pull anything from the MDM because the MDM will be blocked. If it worked, comment below cause I`m new here. c;

**

--------Remembering (If you redo the process via pendrive, you must redo the process from scratch, the update is only valid when you install the new version through the Apple system in the update tab and not via pendrive.------------

**

To remove this notification, first redo the process, otherwise it won't work. after installing ventura configured to not pull the mdm just install the autotool in the link: https://mega.nz/file/E6EWgbCb#kFq52LfsJ1XSxuClq-fxTBTbLrq4a7bGqboAz-o5588
click on "AutoTools_MAC.command and then click on open and then press 6 and enter and that's it, just be happy. I did it on an m2 max and I'm able to update the system. I was on ventura, I did the process and updated. Today I'm on ventura build 1 beta 2. the system when updating does not pull anything. But if you need to format via pendrive you will have to redo the process. But if you are going to update you can continue as it will not pull anything.
It doesn't even feel like I'm using my Mac with MDM because I can update just fine and not worry.

(If anyone is having trouble installing Ventura on an MDM computer, I'll post the step-by-step instructions here.)

follow step by step:

1- install ventura again, repeat the process. (remembering that it is the same process as above of installing ventura and installing root and installing a new user. When you get to the home screen, do this process.).

2- After completing the above process, download the autotools that I left in the link.

3- open the file and click open

4- after opening, put option 6 and enter

7- just be happy and be able to update the system without pulling anything from the mdm as it will be unlocked

prints:
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alucardness commented Oct 6, 2023

@Ran-Xing what do you mean?

What’s new for Enterprise in macOS Sonoma

Enterprise changes in macOS Sonoma

macOS Sonoma includes new features such as declarative device management for software updates, account-driven enrollment, and enhancements to Managed Apple IDs.

Device Management

  • MDM can enforce software updates by a certain date and time and users get additional information in System Settings when an update is requested and when it’s enforced.
  • Automated Device Enrollment can be enforced after Setup Assistant.
  • MDM can enable account-driven User Enrollment and account-driven Device Enrollment to allow users to enroll their Mac using their Organization ID in System Settings. Profile-based User Enrollment is deprecated and will be removed in a future release.
  • The notification that requests the user enroll in MDM is replaced with a full-screen Setup Assistant experience for a Mac using Automated Device Enrollment.
  • New features in platform single sign-on.
  • Enhancements to password requirement enforcement.
  • MDM can granularly restrict more individual settings in System Settings.
  • MDM can require admin users to turn on FileVault during Setup Assistant.
  • macOS now supports Managed Device Attestation.
  • Declarative device management can manage a set of configurations for some built-in services.
  • New declarations support the deployment of certificates and identities.
  • A new built-in network relay supports secure and transparent tunneling of traffic as an alternative to using VPN when accessing internal resources.
  • MDM can set the order in which transparent proxy extensions handle network traffic.
  • macOS now supports the creation of hardware-bound private keys for certificates issued using the ACME protocol.
  • Screen sharing capabilities are improved between Mac computers with Apple silicon over high-bandwidth connections.

Credits: https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-sonoma-14-0-23a344-is-live-whats-new/

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Ran-Xing commented Oct 6, 2023

Didn't say you

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@Ran-Xing Yeah, but I was curious.

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Jbb08 commented Oct 6, 2023

So on both my wife's laptop (2019 13" MBP) and her iMac (2020 5K iMac) I went into the Host files and blocked it there. Once you get the computer up and running (off internet) or block in router. do this.
Open Terminal sudo nano /etc/hosts write in the following lines
0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com 0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com 0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com
save it and reboot
I went from Ventura to Sonoma on both NO problems at all. no popups and worked via OTA. Just an FYI the gdmf.apple.com is the OTA updates installer. if you add that into the list, it will NOT pull updates via system preferences and you have to manually install the OS for every update its SUPEr annoying. So far any update has not overwritten these in the Hosts and it checks out that its not MDM any time.
you can check via these 2 commands sudo profiles status -type enrollment ---this will tell you if it had DEP or MDM should say "NO" to both sudo profiles show -type enrollment --this will try to ping the servers for MDM enrollment, if you did it correctly you should get "Error fetching Device Enrollment config...blah blah" this is meaning that when it fetches 0.0.0.0 doesn't exist...obviously!
But anyway using this method I upgraded with NO problems at all! and did it OTA as well.

Can you elaborate for a simpleton like myself? How do you go into the host file and block there? And block what exactly? Also block what and where? Either way, my situation is that i am on Ventura on a bypassed MDM MacBook Pro 16" M2 Pro and i want to do a normal update to Sonoma and need assistance. Thank you.

This is what I did..

open terminal app (on my Ventura M2 Max) this is found in Applications/Utilities
Then type
sudo nano /etc/hosts

enter your password
then add the following entries ensure they aren’t hashed out # aka there is nothing in front of the 0

0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com
0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com
0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com

once added hit control x to save and exit type Y to accept changes.

To be even more safe I use a Linksys Velop router so I went into Parental controls and on the MacBook Pro Device selected I also blocked the 3 specific sites above. This should stop that device from accessing those sites ever…

I went into settings and upgraded to Sonoma as per usual.

it rebooted, I logged in as normal
Opened terminal and used the same command sudo nano /etc/hosts
And my entires were still there, no alerts or notifications.

All working.

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sgoggins commented Oct 6, 2023

@henrik242 : THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! This saved my 2019 era Mac Pro from the depths of faux security hell!!

	sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord
	sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound
	sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileIls -nstalled
	sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound

FTW!

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sekundaer commented Oct 9, 2023

This might be a dumb comment / question, but nothing changes after running csrutil disable, i.e., the device management windows remains and I cannot open the terminal to run the other commands. What can I do / what am I missing?

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Hi even after holding on recovery it still opens up this screen, any way to bypass this? 20230423_125104

Hi, I have the same problem. Were you able to remove the lock? Can you please tell me how you did it?

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csrutil commented Oct 24, 2023

@xxxx04170208 I think your mac has T2 chip in it, so there is nothing we can do to bypass it.

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sudo profiles show -type enrollment

Did this work correctly, coz I'm using an intel MacBook Pro 2018 and I was constantly getting this MDM Enrollment notification pop up on sonama and one day the pop up won't go, It stayed there with no option to cancel.

Then I wiped the disk and went back to Mojave, then I've come back to Ventura following the steps mentioned in your post, setting the IP address of the mentioned websites to 0.0.0.0.

Now can I upgrade to Sonama??

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Mktulio commented Oct 27, 2023

Bem, eu não recebo o alerta, só tenho essa notificação irritante. Ainda não consigo encontrar como excluí-lo...Imagem > > > > 1. Desligue seu Mac e entre na Recuperação. > > 2. Abra o terminal na Recuperação e digite para desativar o SIP: > > 3. csrutil disable > > 4. Reinicie seu Mac e abra um terminal após a inicialização no macOS. > > 5. Finalmente, para remover a notificação irritante, insira o seguinte: > > > > > > sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigHasActivationRecord > > sudo rm /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordFound > > sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigProfileInstalled > > sudo touch /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings/.cloudConfigRecordNotFound > > sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClient.enroll > > sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon > > sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient > > sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad > > > > > > > > Você pode então manter o SIP desligado ou ativá-lo novamente na recuperação digitando csrutil enable no terminal de recuperação > > Funcionou como um encanto! Obrigado por compartilhar isso :) sP.>>>>>> Pessoal, boa noite! posso atualizar numa boa? No meu funcionou, segundo dia sem o pups chato. Posso atualizar para o Sonoma 14.1?

sSeteP

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might be a stupid question and off topic, but would apple accept one of these bypassed M2 Pro Macbook Pro's for a trade in?

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might be a stupid question and off topic, but would apple accept one of these bypassed M2 Pro Macbook Pro's for a trade in?

They will accept it, but you won't get any benefits 😔

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Hello all,
Does anybody know is the file ".deviceConfigurationBits" is needed or can be removed? If I'm doing cat of it I can see parameter "DeviceConfigurationFlags" with value 9. I have changed it to 0. Tried to find info regarding this parameter and value but seems it is not a lot info regarding it.
https://github.com/mosen/macdocs/blob/master/source/DEP/ios-activation.rst?plain=1#L143

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**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air

Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.

On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.

Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk

You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.

Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.

Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.

Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.

Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.

I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.

You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.

Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Thanks a lot for your detailed guide, I just tried to remove MDM for M2 MacBook with Ventura 13.6.1 and it works like a charm after some trial and errors. The caveat is to make sure that you wiped your internal disk before restoring the external one to the internal one. Some steps are failing for me for the first time so just reboot your computer when it doesn’t work and try it again. The first time when all the steps were completed, I got an error saying the macOS does not match the one Apple provides, so I just tried everything from scratch again. When trying to restore the disk, I often get the seal broken error and can to be fixed by actually booting into the system. For the last step when we do a “fresh” install and overwrite the disk, you can directly do it via the recovery menu, it doesn’t have to be installed from the external drive if the macOS version matches.

Thanks again for the nice guide and hope this comment is helpful for other people as well on this.

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anthumchris commented Nov 11, 2023

Tested with macOS Ventura 13.6.1, Nov 2023. I used this alternative, because the services kept starting after re-activating SIP.

Boot into Recovery Mode from any csrutil status and run:

VOL="/Volumes/Macintosh HD"                                                       # Your HD name
mount -uw $VOL                                                                    # Bypass read-only
cd $VOL/System/Library

mkdir -p LaunchAgents-inactive LaunchDaemons-inactive                             # Remove service configs
mv -v LaunchAgents/com.apple.{ManagedClient,mdmclient}* LaunchAgents-inactive
mv -v LaunchDaemons/com.apple.{ManagedClient,mdmclient}* LaunchDaemons-inactive

bless --mount $VOL --create-snapshot --bootefi                                    # Create bootable, unsigned snapshot
csrutil authenticated-root disable                                                # Boot from unsigned snapshots
reboot

Confirm the services are disabled and show your new bootable snapshot:

diskutil apfs listSnapshots /
sudo launchctl list | egrep -i 'ManagedClient|mdmclient'

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fmodesto30 commented Nov 19, 2023

Hello everyone!

I could resolve it using macOs Ventura 13.6.1. I followed 2 posts. November 2023.

One to get ride of DEP screen and another to get ride of that annoying message every minute.

1 - Many thanks @joshworksit! It worked with macOS Ventura 13.6.1. Amazing stuff you shared it took me 5 minutes. I would be very glad to donate anything. Thanks again.

2 - @pritpalspall I could get ride of that message for good. Thank you so much!

You guys rock.

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Uhh... where is @joshworksit 's post @fmodesto30 ?

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gordi415 commented Nov 26, 2023 via email

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**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air
Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.
On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.
Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk
You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.
Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.
Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.
Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.
Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.
I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.
You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.
Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Thanks a lot for your detailed guide, I just tried to remove MDM for M2 MacBook with Ventura 13.6.1 and it works like a charm after some trial and errors. The caveat is to make sure that you wiped your internal disk before restoring the external one to the internal one. Some steps are failing for me for the first time so just reboot your computer when it doesn’t work and try it again. The first time when all the steps were completed, I got an error saying the macOS does not match the one Apple provides, so I just tried everything from scratch again. When trying to restore the disk, I often get the seal broken error and can to be fixed by actually booting into the system. For the last step when we do a “fresh” install and overwrite the disk, you can directly do it via the recovery menu, it doesn’t have to be installed from the external drive if the macOS version matches.

Thanks again for the nice guide and hope this comment is helpful for other people as well on this.

Hi guys,
I followed this and managed to bypass my MacBook (needed to repeat some steps a few times but finally worked)! Thank you for the great instruction!
I have two questions:
1- Would updating from Ventura to Sonoma void the bypass?
2- I keep getting a pop up message suggesting to enroll again to the original organization. I can press "cancel" and pass it, but I was wondering if there is a way to prevent those occasional pop-ups.

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@visionguy55 If you see such a notification, you have not fully bypassed mdm. If you upgrade your OS to Sonoma you will be blocked after reboot or some short time after it.

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**** WORKING!!! ******. HI EVERYONE! I have a simplified way I figured out today to bypass DEP today with Ventura against a M2 Macbook Air
Need 3 things

  1. A separate M1/M2 Mac (could be anytjhing, macbook, studio, etc). this machine must not have DEP/Business Manager enabled
  2. Create a USB Boot installer flash drive with Ventura - you can google the instructions on how to create a boot usb drive.
  3. An external SSD that you can install a fresh OS on. I just use a sandish extreme USB 3.1 256GB drive.

Steps I did On the non-DEP M1/M2 Mac

  1. USB BOOT installer and install Ventura on the External SSD --- using the non-DEP Mac
  2. Once installed, go thru the account creation so you have an account
  3. Boot from USB SSD drive just to make sure it is working.

Now you have a bootable external disk.
On the DEP enabled M1/M2 Mac

  1. Boot to recovery mode
  2. Disk Utility
  3. Erase the internal physical disk
  4. Click on internal disk and use the RESTORE option, FROM the external SSD
  5. Let it run - will take a while.

Now you jsut copied the clean ventura to the internal drive.
Once the restore is finished. Remove the External SSD Boot from the internal disk
You WILL get an error that it cannot find the OS or some other stupid errors like no owner, or some other silly error... don't worry.
Now you boot again using the USB BOOT Ventura disk. REINSTALL Ventura again on the internal disk - DO NOT DO ANY DISK FORMATTING this time.
Once USB Installer is done, reboot - you will get to the login prompt of the user you created on the initial fresh install. you will have a working Ventura M1/M2 that just bypassed DEP/Business Manager.
Why this works? Because you first lay down the image on internal disk but due to some apple security, it will never boot unless you "fresh install" it. But the good things about fresh installs, Apple doesn't really wipe the system, it just lays whatever that is necessary for the OS. This means it will fix the ownership of the disks, do whatever it does but won't overwrite local accounts etc. so you will not get prompted for DEP enrollment. I don't know the actual internal details but I just know this works.
Enjoy. took me a while to figure this out after trying many things.
I do not need to do any /etc/hosts hacks, csrutil, etc. nothing. It's pretty simple to do but it does require a double install but it's easier than editing files.
You could in theory transfer a fully working Mac to another Mac now but I don't need to do that so I did the clean Ventura Install.
Now I can use this method to clean/wipe any DEP enabled machine and have myself a "pre-built" machine with certain things like chrome etc already installed. I can just boot from the external SSD periodically to get new updates of OS and software and continue to use it on any new Macs I wipe.

Thanks a lot for your detailed guide, I just tried to remove MDM for M2 MacBook with Ventura 13.6.1 and it works like a charm after some trial and errors. The caveat is to make sure that you wiped your internal disk before restoring the external one to the internal one. Some steps are failing for me for the first time so just reboot your computer when it doesn’t work and try it again. The first time when all the steps were completed, I got an error saying the macOS does not match the one Apple provides, so I just tried everything from scratch again. When trying to restore the disk, I often get the seal broken error and can to be fixed by actually booting into the system. For the last step when we do a “fresh” install and overwrite the disk, you can directly do it via the recovery menu, it doesn’t have to be installed from the external drive if the macOS version matches.
Thanks again for the nice guide and hope this comment is helpful for other people as well on this.

Hi guys, I followed this and managed to bypass my MacBook (needed to repeat some steps a few times but finally worked)! Thank you for the great instruction! I have two questions: 1- Would updating from Ventura to Sonoma void the bypass? 2- I keep getting a pop up message suggesting to enroll again to the original organization. I can press "cancel" and pass it, but I was wondering if there is a way to prevent those occasional pop-ups.

You still have to disable MDM notifications: https://gist.github.com/henrik242/65d26a7deca30bdb9828e183809690bd?permalink_comment_id=4553175#gistcomment-4553175

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Thank you @TomRider22 and @fmodesto30 for your replies. Please see mine below:

@visionguy55 If you see such a notification, you have not fully bypassed mdm. If you upgrade your OS to Sonoma you will be blocked after reboot or some short time after it.

@TomRider22 Does it really mean that I have not bypassed mdm? Because I have full control over the machine and there is no other signs other than this advisory message:

Screenshot at Dec 04 09-28-20 copy

Could I be getting this message because I setup my MS Outlook with the same organization account?

BTW, this popping up message seems to be gone after following @fmodesto30 's comment.

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@visionguy55 This message about device enrollment is triggered by mdm mechanism, and the only reason for it is that it(mdm) was not disabled. Showing this type of message is a part of mdm and unfortunately, it is not connected with the MS Outlook account. The main idea of the DEP - Device Enrollment Program is that the company enrolls their laptops or laptops of their contractors to the Apple business manager. In the Apple business manager laptops are enrolled by their serial numbers. Macos has a default mechanism of checking Apple mdm servers which the Apple business manager is part of. And if the serial number of the laptop is found in the database first of all it will send and hardcode setting to the laptop that it belongs to some organization and is a part of DEP. Then depending on the OS version it will notify you that you need to enroll your device or if it's Sonoma it will block the screen with an enrolment message so you can't postpone or escape from it. It's a good mechanism to prevent corporate laptops from being stolen but in the case of it being a personal laptop enrolled to some company's mdm and then not unenrolled properly creates a bunch of problems for second market users.

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@TomRider22 Thank you for the comprehensive explanation of the MDM mechanism. It appears that my attempt to bypass the MDM was not entirely successful. However, in line with @fmodesto30 's suggestion, the pop-up notification prompting enrollment with DEP has disappeared for now. I just hope that it won't reappear after any future system updates!

@BXYMartin Thanks again for sharing the instruction to bypass the MDM. I believed I exactly followed the instruction, however, it looks like my MDM bypassing was not fully successful. Do you have any comments or suggestions?

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OMeryCoN commented Dec 5, 2023

I'm running Sonoma 14.1 from a fresh installation. I've bypassed the MDM and added entries to the hosts file.

Is it possible to update it to Sonoma 14.1.2?

@fmodesto30
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@OMeryCoN Probably.

@followthemoney1
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In case someone also interested:

  1. Ive go to login to laptop in safe mode(on startup hold Shift)
  2. Login as a normal used account
  3. Create a new admin account in a settings
  4. Delete old one time account created with MDM

@ehsan58
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ehsan58 commented Dec 13, 2023

greeting i am on sonoma 14 and don't have any mdm notification
can i direct update to 14.2? is it safe? anyone did that direct?

@jeanswiegers
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greeting i am on sonoma 14 and don't have any mdm notification can i direct update to 14.2? is it safe? anyone did that direct?

i did, and it still works fine.

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ehsan58 commented Dec 16, 2023

greeting i am on sonoma 14 and don't have any mdm notification can i direct update to 14.2? is it safe? anyone did that direct?

i did, and it still works fine.

Is there anything need to do before the upgrade? Or just the skipmdm bypass done before?

@nerykell
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Hi! I've been struggling with MDM quite a lot and found the easiest, but a little long solution to the problem, but you won't get mdm blocking and profile upload notifications. I have described as much detail as possible for different cases, so find your own and follow the instructions.
I'll tell you the pros and cons at the very end, and now let's move on to the beginning:

Preparatory Stages:

  1. If you are on macOS Ventura or Monterey and you have no problems with MDM, then download this utility https://checkm8.info/bypass-mac-mdm-lock and make a Bypass (this is a precautionary measure, without doing this, I cannot guarantee you a successful system update), if you have already done this before, then immediately proceed to the main stages.

  2. If you are on macOS Ventura or Monterey or Sonoma and you did not turn off the Internet during installation, then the MacBook will download the corporate profile and be blocked. In this case, there are 2 possible scenarios ->

Scenario 1: If your data is not on the computer, then feel free to format the disk and install Monterey/Ventura without the Internet, as soon as you have created a user and configured a MacBook, you can connect to the Internet and bypass MDM using this utility https://checkm8.info/bypass-mac-mdm-lock once you have bypassed MDM with this utility, you can proceed to the main stages.
Scenario 2: If you had Monterey/Ventura and received a lock after upgrading to Sonoma, then the data can still be saved if there was still +-100gb of free space on the disk or if you have an external hard drive

If you still have disk space and you need to restore data from a system blocked by your corporate profile, then follow these steps:

  1. Turn off your MacBook
  2. Reboot into recovery mode by pressing the touch id button
  3. Go to Settings
  4. Disk utility
  5. Divide your disk into 2 independent containers, it is important to note that we do not add a VOLUME for the disk, namely a CONTAINER
  6. Install Monterey/Ventura without internet in a new, empty container and bypass MDM using this utility https://checkm8.info/bypass-mac-mdm-lock
  7. Now in the Finder, find your other user from another container and transfer all the files of interest from the old disk container to the new one
  8. You can proceed to the main stages

If you have an external hard drive and you need to recover data from a locked corporate system profile, then follow these steps:

  1. Install Monterey/Ventura without internet and bypass MDM using this utility https://checkm8.info/bypass-mac-mdm-lock
  2. Now find your other user in the Finder and transfer all the files of interest from the internal drive to the external hard drive
  3. You can proceed to the main stages

The main steps:

  1. So, in order to upgrade to Sonoma without problems, we need an external SSD or HDD (we will save our backup copy of all data via time machine to it)
  2. Using the disk utility, format the external hard drive in APFS and in the settings in the main section select Time Machine, and in it select your external hard drive and then create a backup copy of all data
  3. As soon as the backup is created (you don't have to worry about data security, time machine saves literally everything you can), turn off your MacBook
  4. Enter recovery mode by pressing the touch id button.
  5. Disk utility
  6. Format your internal drive
  7. (Pre-create a bootable USB flash drive with macOS Sonoma) Start installing Sonoma without the Internet, configure your MacBook until you are prompted to transfer data from a time machine backup, select this item
  8. Restore all data from the backup and then complete the installation
  9. That's it, you don't need to do anything else, successful bypass!

The advantages of my method:

  1. Personally tested by me on a macbook pro 13" m1 and has been tested without any problems for a week now
  2. An easy way to bypass the regular macos methods
  3. Do you need more advantages besides reliability and simplicity? :)
    Minuses:
  4. Quite a long time

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amylee-codes commented Feb 18, 2024

(This article got hidden because of a problem with my account, so I try again):

I managed getting rid of spyware and worse w/ Sonoma (14.3.1).

System Info (redacted, personal information filtered)

>sudo sysinfo
Software:

    System Software Overview:

      System Version: macOS 14.3.1 (23D60)
      Kernel Version: Darwin 23.3.0
      Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
      Boot Mode: Normal
      Computer Name: <>
      User Name: System Administrator (root)
      Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
      System Integrity Protection: Enabled
      Time since boot: <>

Hardware:

    Hardware Overview:

      Model Name: MacBook Pro
      Model Identifier: Mac15,9
      Model Number: <>
      Chip: Apple M3 Max
      Total Number of Cores: 16 (12 performance and 4 efficiency)
      Memory: 128 GB
      System Firmware Version: 10151.81.1
      OS Loader Version: 10151.81.1
      Serial Number (system): <>
      Hardware UUID: <>
      Provisioning UDID: <>
      Activation Lock Status: Disabled
>sudo profiles list
There are no configuration profiles installed in the system domain

>sudo profiles show -type enrollment
Error fetching Device Enrollment configuration: We can't determine if this machine is DEP enabled.  Try again later.

Approach: Clean Wipe, Router Filter, skipmdm.com Script

This approach assumes you are able to create a bootable installer and wipe your system disk (be sure to have a backup in place!).

Prerequisites

Block Apple URLs

Before starting at all, make sure you block the following URLs in the internet router. I used a Fritz!Box and here the ("Blocked websites" filter) to block these URLs:

iprofiles.apple.com
mdmenrollment.apple.com
deviceenrollment.apple.com
gdmf.apple.com
acmdm.apple.com
albert.apple.com

Make sure the blocker works (i.e. ping from another device)!

Clean Install

In recovery mode, wipe the hard disk and start a clean install with the bootable installer.

Activate the system

Connect to the internet once to activate the system (I could not proceed without). As the installer fails to connect to the enrollment servers, an error message will be displayed indicating that the status of the enrollment could not be verified.

Run the Script

In recovery mode, open Terminal and e.g. try to delete /var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Settings - you should get a prompt for the installation user (starting w/ "_m...") - which is a good sign (no other users set up so far)!

Now just run the script from the USB stick. Hint: directly enter the username you'd like to use later (instead going w/ Apple:1234 - saves some time). The script should run without any errors (despite the long previous discussions).

Postwork

Block URLs in /etc/hosts

Before you proceed with the installation, reboot in recovery mode and change /etc/hosts by adding:

0.0.0.0 iprofiles.apple.com
0.0.0.0 mdmenrollment.apple.com
0.0.0.0 deviceenrollment.apple.com
0.0.0.0 gdmf..apple.com
0.0.0.0 acmdm.apple.com
0.0.0.0 albert.apple.com

Disable agents

>sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.ManagedClientAgent.enrollagent
>sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.mdmclient.daemon
>sudo launchctl disable system/com.apple.devicemanagementclient.teslad
# You might check other services and disable them - know what you do!
>sudo launchctl print system | sort | grep enabled

Little Snitch

Finally a firewall comes in handy to possibly add even more security: I blocked

/usr/libexec/teslad
/usr/libexec/mdmclient

(for both user + system).

This works well for me and shows that it's possible to stop companies from installing spyware on their employees' devices - even on M3. B.t.w. - in many countries these practices are unlawful, so I see following this approach justified as a way of self-defense.

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icarus2712 commented Mar 9, 2024

can any brother here guide me for amazon locked mac book pro 2017 non touch model inel model When i bought it used it was working perfectly, i even upgraded it to ventura, however when i formatted it for selling, it now asks for amaon remote. please help step by step.

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ooduck commented Mar 16, 2024

Hi even after holding on recovery it still opens up this screen, any way to bypass this? 20230423_125104

I have the same issue. I can't boot to recovery mode because of this. Do you have recommendations to go through this?
I have Macbook Pro M1 2021 14"
@aviloveN @predragcvetkovski @Jbb08 @eternalgod @maclover696 @mikevic18

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haohanw commented Mar 18, 2024

Hi even after holding on recovery it still opens up this screen, any way to bypass this? 20230423_125104

I have the same issue. I can't boot to recovery mode because of this. Do you have recommendations to go through this? I have Macbook Pro M1 2021 14" @aviloveN @predragcvetkovski @Jbb08 @eternalgod @maclover696 @mikevic18

Seems like it has been locked by administrator after being enrolled in the MDM. you need another device with T2 chip to reinstall this one via DFU mode.
Try this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8r9w4dduEw

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ooduck commented Apr 11, 2024

Hi even after holding on recovery it still opens up this screen, any way to bypass this? 20230423_125104

I have the same issue. I can't boot to recovery mode because of this. Do you have recommendations to go through this? I have Macbook Pro M1 2021 14" @aviloveN @predragcvetkovski @Jbb08 @eternalgod @maclover696 @mikevic18

Seems like it has been locked by administrator after being enrolled in the MDM. you need another device with T2 chip to reinstall this one via DFU mode. Try this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8r9w4dduEw

Worked like a charm with my MDM macbook.

Do you happen to know if this would also work with icloud issue macbook?

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c22dev commented Apr 14, 2024

If someone's interested, I made a gist with some sh scripts that should allow you to setup a MDM locked Mac as brand new;

https://gist.github.com/c22dev/e3a1223fa63b20f1b4e95a7119277cb9

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