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It appears that rasengan (Andrew Lee) of Private Internet Access believes that ownership of the company Freenode Ltd. gives him the right to unilaterally replace the current staff team.

We may have had our disagreements with staff, but freenode being run by a volunteer team, using servers provided by sponsors, is a key reason that we appreciate freenode.

As such, we do not believe that such a unilateral replacement by a corporate interest is appropriate.

If this attemped takeover by Andrew Lee continues, we will be advocating to move our communities elsewhere.

Context: Fuchs' leaked (not by him) draft resignation letter that caused Andrew Lee to come onto #freenode: https://fuchsnet.ch/privat/fn-resign-letter.txt

Context: Andrew Lee (rasengan)'s claims: https://gist.github.com/realrasengan/88549ec34ee32d01629354e4075d2d48

Context: Conversation in #freenode on Fri 14 May: http://hermit1.scsys.co.uk/~matthewt/fnwut

(Update 16th May 23:24 BST - changed wording from "move our communities elsewhere" to "be advocating to move our communities elsewhere" to clarify that some signatories will be people with heavy involvement but not final authority. Also changed "takeover by Private Internet Access" to "takeover by Andrew Lee" to clarify that Freenode Ltd. itself is not a PIA subsidiary but merely shares ownership)

(Update 19th May 00:15 BST - made file officially a .md file, clarified leaking wasn't by fuchs, corrected stupid tyop (clarift -> clarify), set soft wrap)

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@shadowcat-mst shadowcat-mst commented May 15, 2021

mst, as an operator of the following channels/communities

  • #perl
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MetaNova, representing the following channels/communities:

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Sauvin, as an operator of:

##linux

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Khaytsus, as an operator of:
#fedora namespace
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And a number of other older/smaller channels

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@jwlynch jwlynch commented May 16, 2021

jim,

as operator of ##linux,
and as founder/operator of ##linux-beginners

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tuxifreund, as founder/operator of
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@gerdesas gerdesas commented May 16, 2021

Gerdesas / Bahhumbug as:

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May 16, 2021

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@tonymorris tonymorris commented May 16, 2021

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Op at #haskell and a few others. 15 years freenode. Stop wrecking the place Andrew.


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geekosaur aka brandon s allbery kf8nh, op in the #haskell group of channels

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pj as:
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@jperrin jperrin commented May 17, 2021

Evolution as:
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@nazunalika nazunalika commented May 17, 2021

Sokel / nazunalika / label as:

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2021-05-17

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maxamillion as:

Ansible and Fedora Contributing Developer/Maintainer, past Fedora Engineering Steering Committee member.

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sixy as:

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relrod as:

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daemon as:

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@blkshpGH blkshpGH commented May 17, 2021

blkshp as:

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@carlwgeorge carlwgeorge commented May 17, 2021

carlwgeorge as:

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Zathrus as:

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@tomreyn tomreyn commented May 17, 2021

Speaking only for myself (tomreyn on Freenode), not these channels / communities, which I got +o on:

  • #megaglest
  • #ubuntu
  • #xubuntu

Andrew: This is a list of people whose time you chose to waste. You may have some understanding of business, but none of community.

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dcavalca as operator in #centos-hyperscale

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wraeth, speaking only for myself, as:

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Buck, as:

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ttmrichter, as:

  • operator in ##prolog

Adding as a personal comment: this is why we can't have nice things. Selfish dickheads fuck up everything they touch.

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themill, signing in an individual capacity but as an operator in #debian, #debian-offtopic, #raspbian, #supybot

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Axman6, Freenode user for most than half my life, worried about killing one of the least toxic communities I've ever encountered (#haskell in particular, but also much of Freenode in general). Op of #macosx for well over a decade. Stop wrecking the place Andrew.

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Tadgy, operator in:
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pandakekok9, operator in #free-rms

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falktx, operator in (development related channels)

#lad
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cel from #scuttlebutt

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launchd/examknow:

(former) op in #ircnow, #bitbot, ##defocus, and probably a few others you've never heard of

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ugexe as operator in #raku

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milkii, op of #libreav

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Mikaku as founder/operator of:

##unix
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alextee, as an operator/founder of #zrythm

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pinkieval, as:

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@jellytoo jellytoo commented May 19, 2021

jelly, speaking for myself, as:
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rbowen, as CentOS Project community manager, and operator on #centos and #centos-* channels, as well as assorted other channels.

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@pushcx pushcx commented May 19, 2021

The network is the people, not a domain name. #lobsters is staying with Libera.Chat.

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@ddevault ddevault commented May 19, 2021

SourceHut's IRC channels have moved: #sr.ht et al.

Sway as well: #sway and #sway-devel.

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@benharri benharri commented May 19, 2021

I've moved my channels #tilde.team and #tildeverse over to libera

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bilbo-the-hobbit as an operator on #fusiondirectory and #fusiondirectory-internal

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@yardenac yardenac commented May 19, 2021

Instead of just jumping ship, this open letter should have contained some actual demands, such as turning over freenode governance to a trusted nonprofit. Otherwise, signing it carries very little actual weight or commitment. Demands might have gone a long way. I'm frustrated that people have ceded ground so easily here.

UPDATE: now that I have more information, I realize that people have been fighting this for a long time and this was a very last resort. And in the long run, liberachat will probably be good for the community. Sorry for doubting you all.

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@geekosaur geekosaur commented May 19, 2021

My understanding per https://kline.sh is that christel gave away the show already and there are no grounds for demands. :(

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@anjandev anjandev commented May 19, 2021

Co-maintainer of Sxmo.
Nick: anjan

I have deleted my freenode account and we have moved #sxmo and #sxmo-offtopic to https://www.oftc.net/ - effective immediately.

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@ProgVal ProgVal commented May 19, 2021

@yardenac the demand is for Andrew Lee to roll back his takeover: "If this attemped takeover by Andrew Lee continues, we will be advocating to move our communities elsewhere."

And the freenode staff did not cede ground easily. According to https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461 (and other sources), freenode staffers got legal advice, and "our lawyers have advised us that there is not much that we can do about it without some of us risking financial ruin".

If even the staff could not get him to change his mind, there is nothing we users can do short of threatening to leave. Many of use are still waiting to see what happens, but Andrew and his team have been completely silent for days despite getting effective control of the network today.

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@MacFan4000 MacFan4000 commented May 19, 2021

Both Miraheze and Wikimedia have overwhelming support to move away from freenode

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@ACleverDisguise ACleverDisguise commented May 20, 2021

ttmrichter, as:

  • operator in ##prolog

Adding as a personal comment: this is why we can't have nice things. Selfish dickheads fuck up everything they touch.

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Anybody purporting to be ttmrichter@freenode is not me and is being fraudulent. I am now ttmrichter@libera and still operator in ##prolog.

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@ACleverDisguise ACleverDisguise commented May 20, 2021

Instead of just jumping ship, this open letter should have contained some actual demands, such as turning over freenode governance to a trusted nonprofit. Otherwise, signing it carries very little actual weight or commitment. Demands might have gone a long way. I'm frustrated that people have ceded ground so easily here.

Feel free to tilt at windmills, Sparky.

I don't have enough hours in the week to spend chasing rainbows.

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  • ##python-friendly — Unofficial language beginners support.

And primary oper of the ##webdev topical channel.

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Yes, somehow, this is interleaved properly so as to be able to gpg --verify the "letter signature" within. Markdown magic. Verifiable "RSA key ID" against the WebCore commit history by suffix. (Click any "Verified" stamp.) It’s been a wild 15y 11w, but I am not divesting myself of the network immediately or completely; what’s another TCP connection to my ZNC? (As a point of reassurance for members of the channels I moderate.) Also forgot to mention “former mod of #mongodb back when that was a thing”. 😉

Update: the Marrow Open Source Collective channel has been hijacked in a fairly blatant attempt to push discontents off the service.

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#varcem-*VARCem - Virtual ARchaeological Computer EMulator channels, the team is still deciding where to move.

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@nsturtz nsturtz commented May 20, 2021

MIF
op of ##teeenprogrammers, moved to sturtz network and libera

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@bghira bghira commented May 20, 2021

nothing changed except the staff members, try to clamor for control until the last minute

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@cmpunches cmpunches commented May 21, 2021

nothing changed except the staff members, try to clamor for control until the last minute

I did not post this, and this user is not me.

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@mplscorwin mplscorwin commented May 22, 2021

Don't sweat it. Digging though next-to-last commenting user's other contributions on this platform this is not someone with a history of collaboration or even respectful disagreement. It troll.

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@bghira bghira commented May 22, 2021

nothing changed except the staff members, try to clamor for control until the last minute

I did not post this, and this user is not me.

i was agreeing with you.

and i was speaking to those who have decided to split off from Freenode while inflicting as much damage as they can on their way out.

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@mspreij mspreij commented May 26, 2021

Nomikos, as:

  • operator in #web, #web-social
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        Acting founder of ##llamas on Libera.
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@denny denny commented Jun 9, 2021

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  • Owner: #fitgeeks, #ShinyCMS
  • Staff: #Linux

The name may change but the community stays the same: linpeople => openprojects => freenode => libera

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@GamerGirlandCo GamerGirlandCo commented Jun 11, 2021

i, The_Tablet, founder of ##Diamond-Head and #tablets-place, have deleted/dropped my account and moved to libera.chat

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